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Dwight

Arasubalraj, I was talking about myself.

arasubalraj

Thanks Dwight-Paul for opening my eyes that i am 'defending', judgemental, engaged in a blame game...uh..uh..
is referring to george bush and iraq war is a method to 'hide' from myself..??? mind-blowing. Anyway, me too tired..

arasubalraj

Hi uma
that's a cute reply.:-)
thanks.

Dwight

Hallo Uma,

wie geht es dir? I had just returned from my German Class when I decided to re-read the article and the comments. Somehow I feel it is all very simple and words do get in the way. I also get the feeling that Arasubalraj is 'defending' a position and view. For me, seeing is being aware of myself in the world and for me seeing is observing my behaviour and not being judgemental. The reference to George Bush reminded me of one of the classic methods I use to 'hide' from myself and that is to finger-point and blame. Is 'finger-point' a word at all? Anyway, I am tired and just wanted to say that I greatly enjoyed reading the article. Und wie John Lenon gesagt hat ,,..you may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one, maybe some day you'll join us and the World will be as one''

much much love to all of you,

Dwight-Paul

uma

Somehow I think both of us are saying the same thing and in agreement but words seem to be getting in the way. So let me put it this way. At least I, agree with what you say, even if you feel you don't with me!

arasubalraj

No, not at all. caste, religion, culture and all thoughts arise out of one's living socio-economic conditions, i.e.,class.we are bound by our class interests and to see beyond that, our class interests need to change and there can be no classless thought or person.

the class consciousness does not affect our vision.on the contrary,it helps to see what's the reality is and where do we stand. what i try to counter is the generalization of seeing- stretching it beyond personal level. even at a personal level, love affects much the people who can afford time and money.

uma

Arasubalraj, true. Many things affect the way we see and also cloud our vision - class interests, caste, religion, culture etc. To see requires that we go beyond all that and do what is necessary at a given point of time. Is this what you mean?

arasubalraj

Hi Uma, thanks for your comment in my blog and for responding to my comment.

//There's nothing you can do about it. But it doesn't mean I have to also be blind does it?//

i didn't said we have to be blind. if we really "see", then we won't get the feeling that we can't do anything about it. Palestinian and Iraqi children "see" what's heaped on them and they fight the massive tankers with stones. Nandigram people "see" who deceive them with lal jandaas and fight back. these ordinary people are not well-learned social workers but they fight because they "see". i repeat,class interests of a person defines his/her "seeing". the class interests of the so-called social workers are defined by their funding agencies and hence they are alienated from the people for whom they say they fight for. what we need is to go to the masses and "see" what they yearn for and need to work for them and not for any foundations. then, that journey of "seeing" will teach us that we have many things to do.

uma

Arasubalraj, I agree with you that people like George Bush (and many others - like our own politicians) do not want to see anything. There's nothing you can do about it. But it doesn't mean I have to also be blind does it?

bombaydosti

Oh! Beautiful!
Am not able to say if it were your words or the concept itself. Very very true!! Seeing the other person, is the only true way to love :)
Glad to read this

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